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BART: Countdown to San Francisco
Series Title
Collection Guide (External)
Created Date
February 15th, 1974
Description
Bill Wattenburg describes problems he associates with the Bay Area Rapid Transit (BART) system and concludes that the blame should be placed entirely on the BART management team. He provides examples intended to highlight the incompetence of the management group and suggests that many problems have not been resolved because the BART management and board are reluctant to admit their errors. He emphasizes that delays in completing the BART system--despite being attributed to mechanical problems--were ultimately caused by irresponsible management. In 1974 Bill H. Wattenburg was an electrical engineer, inventor, and radio personality.
Transcript
California Audiovisual Preservation Project Item: "BART: Countdown to San Francisco" : https://archive.org/details/csth_000013 Transcript for file: format=VBR+MP3&ignore=csth_000013_access.mp3 00:00:00 Dr Burke Augusta to refry marks on marks on a doctor McLaughlin's comments a one of the best litter literary agents in New York Animazement after that became a bestseller what does Dom a lonely guy in history to write off 00:00:30 alright terms of being in a qualified as an engineer in church Dr McLaughlin remember little sin to have the engineering department of Berkeley vid sobranie is said in big letters that I always want to be a ninja engineer now I are one well I understand it Mr Stokes general manager manager bar to see the meteor this form and I sure all of your memories are quite clear clear so I won't remind you what was that at that time I will try to explain 00:01:05 explain in what I believe is the cause of the situation exist now it is so difficult to come to grips with this testing for the amount of information release the number of observations I've made it take 27 hours in 27 minutes I think to give you true insight in the problem the problem is so basically simple the time just trying to focus focus on it and I believe the rest is up to you because it is reaching a point where the kids up to the people I just about every institution repair 00:01:40 iPad sale the movie max number of very consciences public public officials in on the light to see the sum of America near Clinton cop games James Hill Maryland Walnut Creek to just one on the board Milton Martin of Treasury idea of how it is not them for them in the beginning and just recently play Asking a few simple questions you would know what's happening in today to get an idea of what I know I can't ended with the taxpayers engineer simply trying to find out the truth and make a simple suggestion 00:02:15 Justin imagine from moment the generals in the Pentagon Pentagon got 10 billion dollars for a supersonic bomber can either 10 years later they discovered covered this fantastic piece of equipment would fly there was a flaw in the control circuits Oregon wings or something nf after all the official been taken for Champaign taxi tours around the airport what are you going to do what you do well 00:02:50 well my suggestion to these men are used to consult is a member there for sinus should I consult the mark public relations department yes they learn their lesson scarcely I'm sure within a matter matter which cell have the Russians terrorized with the feeling that we are taking a great leap leap forward in submarine warfare are the problems a bard Ben and are not today technical there is if you follow the press in the events 00:03:25 dance the episodes of taking place in justice week finally Lucien you know that they are the events simple technical the problem that is what is the sofa straining to me for a year I told the state senator I told the park Bart directors I told the Press live stream to the point of it all I was just plain crazy crazy but you can reach in your pocket and get the tools to fix the train control problem problem and I approve by that I mean average engineers in the Dozen places in the bay area code is formulated the solution and a gun installing 00:04:00 stalling it in a matter of week that is now a proven fact I would not have made these for dick predictions given in the solution that I would not endangered myself to the liability lawsuit and I'm not been absolutely certain they would necessary problems did exist they would work and finally they they have no other choice in the world ever been to use precise Leawood I told them had to be you does bacteria not been satisfied with the word I don't like being sued and I have not been paid for anything I did with part down in a mad taxpayer 00:04:35 N&N a member of a profession that I think of Minnesota so that's that's that I won't spend time with me anymore I will not just another solution approving the point and it really is not is not very significant there's been no ingenious nature to anything proposed Ordos of others before me a proposed important thing is to keep used to keep in mind that better man propose the same things and gave the same warnings before I before I came a long way just did not stand up and shout loud enough for long enough 00:05:10 that's the only difference there's your answer today the problem with bar Bart the bear in stay in my opinion is the most unbelievable combination of insipid arrogance in bland ignorance but I have ever seen in in a local government agency I have seen generals in the Pentagon caught in the same Eagle frightening situation to word it was easy easier to pay out hundreds of millions rather than his mistake today 00:05:45 the day always came to say had the answer to someone NOLA if you gave me a billion dollars in 10 years Sears and never asked me intelligent questions you wouldn't be able to find me today and there is your answer what is total unbridled Authority in opportunity and that is the answer answer I have seen no illegal act I did not suspect of any I have seen no mistake take that is explained in any other way than simply a defensive 00:06:20 nc reaction by a group of men have become so accustomed custom 22 operating without any authority sortie of pressure in them whatsoever on the other hand the day I walk walk in the park for the first part board meeting there was one man on Medford screaming as long as I over the year one by one change change their mind or Goodman came on I think this issue can only be made made clear by being specific general 00:06:55 what is I know we'll be smothered by by public relations tomorrow morning or within an hour after this meeting what specific say have a tough time with the specifics goes something like like this the good part about Bart in a minute desperately need help our Clinton cop dan helix mayor of Concord George Zimmerman vice president Fremont bank of previous president of bars in the one who defend them when I first to come on in changes changes mind within a month are the facts Amanda Schull attacked my opinion Sandston Noah Bianca the present for German 00:07:30 danger of being softening is approach Richard Clark Clark from Albany and now I'm married James and James Janesville from Walnut Creek to like women cop was a breath of fresh air sure the sense that is very first board meeting and within 5 minutes ask a question that's a very very significant thing in the park board of directors and there's your problem now this is there is it significant thing to keep in mind all the man I just name names were are now or were at one time elected public officials who have had two or more 00:08:05 must now answer for their actions the other 67 complete tattoo taxis in the sense that they will not venture a question criticism even a question what is embarrassing to the general manager of that this district solo challenge you to do something up to you there is no one left in Sacramento now to change a situation if you were go to one bar board meeting or if you're busy as I am if you will send one trusted assistant manager in your businesses are professions to 1 part board meeting every second 00:08:40 second and fourth Thursday I believe the president Infernus era of the month IPRO miss you something if you or your representative does not come on come away from that meeting shaking his head mumbling to himself you send me the bill bill for your time I'm not kidding cheaper for me to do that now voice my own time alright let me go down the list where you stand email reading the press this week the day have decided they must must a backup electronic system in the train control system 00:09:15 what is the side of a must use the ticket a solution 1 was given to the offer to the morning 1 year ago oferta the McGinn in December in by every means remains of a lable they have struggled to avoid first of all the knowledge in probably system second must use a solution that that that one bird proposer someone outside their are there in a circle post that's all the monsters 100 million dollars in my opinion has been lost in time lost revenue Islas lost interest on these facilities in it at truly amazing insults for the people 00:09:50 people paid for work on Thursday of this week under questioning from the directors Quentin c*** James Hill Dick Clark bet yes indeed 100 of these cars in 96 I think to be exact are now auto warranty cars that were never accepted internet completed Aaron auto warranty that is the point of trying to get this board understand standard any manager of a hot dog stand in the schoolyard understands there's a liability there that you must avoid the contractors even invited the legal 00:10:25 the legal actions to clear the air in responsibility themselves long ago what to do so go to allow that legal action is very clearly would have exposed Department management zone culpability involvement and negligence in these matters that's all this whole Games about is about ladies and gentleman that is the whole bowl game is to keep betta underwraps intelligent enough trains to get enuff public admiration does mother the whole thing just hope it goes away because these men have learned one thing that is the public is a very short attention span if you have enough money to put it down 00:11:00 if you can take enough people to lunch thick enough people for a ride ride you can get away from anything that comes up whatever happens and that's all the whole game so there you are all of these mornings with put in writing to them into the Board of Directors and I and others I'm not the only one probably the ones who who who who struggled the hardest are the board members on there that I just mention to try to make the playoffs attention to these items and it is completely a solid block 00:11:35 X Men unfortunately three of them from San Francisco who will will look it best to Stokes tomorrow at 430 solution that he is a product to the virgin birth what would be 66 alright well where do you stand now alright this talk shows with countdown to San Francisco and I have to tell you the depressing ladies and gentlemen there is no countdown to San Francisco it is not even started 00:12:10 in terms of putting together a major project this half of the job job is integrating these components of making work smoothly in that is normally have to total time time you remember Army project a mini letter once this is where is this really really is were of the laws of physics mark Viera the arrogance of man when you really try to make it work the management job offer for this system if and when it does running your teen is 5 times more difficult to make these men when are cleaning for compassion about right now so you assess your self worth going to go 00:12:45 it has not started and I'll give you give you a prediction now which I will not back up with a categorical statement anymore because I'm not going to stick my stick my neck out anymore but it is at least two years at least two years before you close p**** hairy teen Lee operating Transbay system Bart trains across the system for the champagne flight alright but they will not get or Chi the promise people paid for the system for at least two years and not even then and less 00:13:20 there are some better man charged in the street I want to make one things clear that does not does not include me to never have been something up Chuck about the constant attack from the barcode public relations people I don't want a job I will never take again take such a job and Im contractually from doing so it or not not that case I doubt the state officials really ask me to get involved begin with what if text from cells to me or the or representative anyway it at all so there you are no the Maine 00:13:55 the main thing that I found the most effective for those who have the responsibility state public public officials is to know how the game is played we learn this in the military in the space programs call the Aerospace shuffle this is how you deal with um managers who are too naive the protector text the interest of the district for the agency that they represent from ferry very reasonable very reasonable demands reasonableness senseney contractor 1 00:14:30 how to make money well the next thing that Mr Stox amount due do is to phone right now you will see an intense amount of attention focused on legal action against these contractors who have been totally totally at fault for everything on the contractors a by no means the only ones at fault for what what does what is the fault dear and what what technical problems problems remain are some very straightforward way to get the time they will be solved does not start until somebody takes legal actions should have been taken a year ago 00:15:05 secondly the general manager will now started programa campaign glitches I seen the beginnings of Italy where to buy Hill established in self is the Messiah for government money to salvage salvage Bart without him you will lose you will lose this government money and you must have the schedule money in order to keep going best everybody's attention away from all this message for here does not talk about it because not productive well its soft b*** 00:15:40 where are the two main things you'll see developing and future you'll see you in 10 Sanford the cities contractors in legal action is proper it should have been taken taking long time ago because it was clear the air but because that is going to slap flapper laundry in the wind Parkside you'll see another campaign how to make sure no one pays attention to the laundry what you gonna lol I have little more time than I thought I'd like to get into this question of what this real 00:16:15 this really means to me what should mean to you I watch this Texas district for one year in the first state Senate hearing that I attended when did well in the back up a little bit how that came about in wet soil properties you see a picture on your euro Collegetown schedule weekly reschedule here but I'm sure alarm the barking very appropriate because that a van when is what I think trigger to state Senate hearing in October or November 19 1972 hearing aid 00:16:50 the legislative analyst office prepared reporting for that they were problems with the train control system the critical ingredient around which this whole systems been designed find the tracks schedules the cars all soon as you can achieve this level of autumn Automation that's that's the price for thing that's why you never TV schedule for remember your way alright at that meeting department of the side of an answer questions categorically they would attack Allan Poe's engineers is simply being confident thats that answers all questions 00:17:25 and I recall it the number to questions asked by center Milton marks setting on it comedian was there a new is concern in response to one of those does questions I believe he ask Mr Stox directly when will you get a cyst the system running Vista Stokes looked at him and said when you don't get off our backs will make the system run that's when I blew my eyelid because of an instant I was simply going to testify for Mista Mista Post engineers say they are confident I believe Zaroff sebatians Valentino the usual 00:18:00 soft noncommittal expert testimony that doesn't get you which in trouble with either side well the next guy up what's a representative from one of the contractors in the was brought to buy Mr Stokes tetelestai state senators the main problem with simply the critics did not know do not know what they were looking at there only 10 man in the world who understood the sophisticated did space age control system ladies and gentlemen look at that control system the complete design about the previous Sunday afternoon for 2 hours 00:18:35 do understand all of it completely because in total in concept Incept incestigation it is not beyond what I would a signed would have a sign signed to a senior electrical engineering students return paper Berkeley I have repeated that a dozen times I have proven that a dozen times and it is now very how many thousands are there after I heard the contractor represented say that in the five elected elected officials that I have some respect for the said hell with it on you have it 00:19:10 and all I did was Percy to get the Senators analogy how the system actually work is only half of it there if you were to design a control system in my opinion pinion this is the danger of had to take time in again in my opinion its own it's only have to complete for what you would do it for you whatever electronics to safeguarding online and that's been proven Princeton no we going from there I move toolbar board meeting and I saw something else call me I saw a man in a staff manipulating labor 00:19:45 Board of Directors in a way that to me but just discussing to me if the fighter whole concept of Olay Board of Directors I believe in me I believe that anytime you must take engineers and scientists this and put them in charge of the district like that that is proof positive what are system has collapsed because anytime is I said earlier you give me the scientist a billion dollars look out all you need are intelligent knowledgeable experienced men 00:20:20 men in any time any sinuster engineer tells you in a public place project you should build or do something that those men that lay more direct directors does not understand you are in trouble when you can I mix explain it to the Lehman you are in trouble in the lemon do not understand it you're not the new job warrior covering up something so that's what I object to to preach to Leesburg numbers for long as they would listen to me you could have seen the circus it was five or six of the mainland 00:20:55 Mansion hear a demanding ID heard and other taxpayers be heard 5 or 6 Shawnee anyone who spoke down leaving their seats in walking into the back room because they were discussed in the writer with her before before them and then say anything and Wisconsin game behind the scenes I'll tell you today if anyone of you experienced in business management a profession directions to go there you check your head but if you did if you made a mistake of asking to see speak or say something to these men define a very interesting thing happened 00:21:30 behind your back because behind you in that form you find 608 public relations man more money spent their the ninja Engineering staff and you find Amazon Instant whispering in the years of the the Press host of the game number this long is a credit to the press whispering in their ears this man's after missed Stokes job as a radical Bloomsburg society or something just the most horrendous list list of innuendo with you original I just for kicks I collected it for a while 00:22:05 what's going on in on it repeats itself so you forget it that's what would happen to you and that is the kind of organization in situation what you doing with his responsible for this problem and I think that reading reading answers all questions I had one meeting in the middle of last summer when they were getting a little worried that they had a problem with the wheel scrubber Aspergers idea by the way that that was Rita Coolidge you can you can take a comb out of your pocket improve why the wheel scrubbers would not work 00:22:40 tal vez in the membrane maintain that party line until after the publican Public Utilities Commission said stop it we can stand it anymore we look at the test result what was the first time the San Francisco represent is appointed by Marinelli auto Toyota of Supervisors exception of my c*** the others the first time the other 3 ever actually listens and ass for a solution to the problem was given to me for me kavana work on in 2 weeks I think I have a 00:23:15 about 15 minutes left ear very good questions how to adjust what it's like on 1 scene and then I think questions are probably be more review I was asked to one meeting in August to state what the problem was or what disturbs me and what might be what might be a reasonable solution to it and I have to tell you in Indian that meeting remind me of a story we still amanda Bynes for station master the railroad station master Sadie Hawkins with your name 00:23:50 I had a chance to tell the company President came through car window should be made in the train station she was trying to run and he wasn't paying attention but he kept trying to ask her where you can find a little fun Funtown you know where the boys go a little fun around here filing she in desperation she said well Mr Jones use it actually a caisson up the line away is the band in Tonawanda crazy lady that lives in that about 5 o'clock at night she c** in sister going poop 00:24:25 who in the boys round here start date figured out if you go up there and you answer cancer back who is shown by GM present last last name of the next morning Rocky Mountain newspapers Banda headliners is naked River Zachary random way freight train well that's what it's like trying trying to discuss the matter with you Jonas and that's the only thing I could give them 00:25:00 give them so I asked for your indulgence in your in your consideration for all of the emotional things that you may have seen or heard of had to do but you know I grew up in the morning country can I use to work in a tonne ULearn 1 lesson when your kids you never trust a small smart you is because the first time you try to walk by humans Humana tight Tonia does lien on your face in at 5 o'clock come out you'll still be right there if you want to talk to them you use a 2004 00:25:35 and that's the only way I found it could be done on iphone like a diamond in a mower intellectual fashion but the results random I think they speak for themselves so much all I can do thank you very much free time Bar Charley deserves 00:26:10 the criticism the intro not it and I think we're citizens this area should be greatly 5000 vigil such a doctor what bird has been willing competent individual has been willing to take up the call Joe's and Dave do a job that others in the US are they have not done thank you very much for speaking to us and I can show you the world what club does mine country version subjects first president 00:26:45 Leominster 1 Burgerville return to the roster on my way I have a large number of questions the Predators many is we can the first one understand the seats in the cars were made in Brazil that must be a story behind hind this what is it to give an explanation of today that this was just below the little better on the recent orders cars in bed with some accept American standard specifications vacations but I really don't understand it be on that I think it's the fixing it what counts right now right now please stay the names of the state officials that have 00:27:20 that have encouraged unsupported your efforts SunRail for Dell quest Marxism engineer of someone can mean Senator James Mills president of the Senate numbers of a mini others of heathers where's the staff members talk to me or get information or listen arguments why would I have to say this so that's not not the problem the problem of the elected public officials in the Bay Area because most of them were taken to lunch 00:27:55 the lunch in lot of America in back and I think it I think how ever you must keep in mind some of them dead in here invaders are the lottery Spektor the mayor of San Francisco can change that situation tomorrow I believe that because is it was his office what made the other three representatives on that bored listening the date the day they had to have a solution to the train control when they got it convenient to tune a hearing aids again but that to me prove the power lies 00:28:30 please run is an expression with an elected Board of directors be worse than a bird has under the present point of system no I think it's the only recourse know I think your phone is system go to work what is such a shame that's the only hope this point in spite of the problems of losing a funeral directors and Grace counties I know that girl was put through Arizona it is just a warning to Bart nothing else but you're only hope now the good men run again and I think I don't think it was a baller so that's my opinion 00:29:05 I have heard that the controlled by the pier CRC does sprint jennette note transit to qualify comments yeah that what is a lovely question that it goes right at the heart of the BART representation the PU C simply says they would like bar to do with the Santa Fe Railroad railroad was doing in 1908 like to know where every day and car is at all time time to say that's all that is fast and and the bar to fish a line the day that the David Barton 00:29:40 was begging for a solution to this problem the general managers public relations staff how to release explain the whole problem is simply being unnecessary restrictions by the PU C not for that they would be in great shape but I will contend again Intelli made some of the sexes of gone in this last year and the 10 necessary Drake have those damn fool that allowed to run those trains that weigh the most assuredly what are they worth will kill a lot of people that's my opinion I don't think that's the case now what 1 year ago has it been released in the United States 00:30:15 just dissed total confidence they will kill a lot of people it's the attention focused on at the payphone walk a little mistake Sonata places specific questions a one of them is do you have a you have a solution to the reversing escalator problem about a sandbox why I don't know look I can say Infernus anytime you get this amount equipment you're going to find something breaks down something was ingested weather weather today for machines that won rhe does a graphing point out I didn't say one thing 00:30:50 think there's a hell of a life is good about Bart you know it's an interesting way to find out what what it is almost everything built by the local contractors in people under screen djent competitor imperative building practices works speaks well what is line cell there will for another 3 years almost everything else elsewhere was not monitored and was taken on the representations of space age miracles Network if all of its electronic sonic in mechanical difficulties were miraculously Sol defective at noon tomorrow 00:31:25 bark Denby of viable transportation system no reason mention 2002 your problem that I mention throne if you saw that cannot be sold for at least another year after they are willing to admit it exists 26th the present from going to find insidious 1 where is my opinion and problem in the in the electronics in the design of that system such that when you raise the dead did the traffic to about 4 times the present level far below full scale full scale operation chaos Lafayette IN for reasons 00:32:00 Eminem I specially Welinder stand up in it I want stated categorically a business The Chronicle said last overweight 13 7 the William H Rosenberg block purchase last summer mini computers which will soon be tested sandwich presumably with permit Bartow Bart operation between Oakland and San Francisco does this mean your action was responsible for 469 delay in starting this operation no that is the question is confused 00:32:35 steer the mini computers for the train control fix is part of what I propose mission of Houston long time ago this was a gadget that they wanted to buy for completely different different computer store programmer to go over and play with it in Omarion self somewhere in superchips order to buy it has a list of parts the way you buy a Ford parts store 428 for 28000 2000 dollars and I just simply having a notice of 1 Dana Barton in Sidney NE Android devices for $20,000 in the got up and try 00:33:10 through all the officials Mr Stox College managers to justify it and they a menace to say number things that were Whiteley Falls in 2 months later they have to admit that yes indeed it was illegal to do that doesn't need that and so just a Tuesday the report of the name of the by the unit unit as a unit for $10,000 good radar be used to avoid collisions between removing installed by train yes it good to use the most 00:33:45 straightforward way because of the curvature in the tunnels in the blind spot president General Electric system based on radar Lite principles that was tested did you realize the train control system the park but was never tested the ones that were tested in college qualified rejected they weren't space age has a leak in the tube in the middle of the the band in plug alright I'm not I'm not aware of any leaking the to buy for loss stories in on head laugh about one because I 00:34:20 it was so good in the press release pond in such a way that I was almost spected in Clannad did I just get them to react so they can be shut down but the only leaks lakeside water was a result of disposing down the dust of tones phone and I don't think this can be verified Twitter leaks into haven't I haven't heard touchstone this object already but does a little more the technique for detecting a dead train on the tracks what is developed in the 1890s is known as the block signal system Why dont 00:34:55 don't bark people can see the computers are the answer to everything and do something the champ easy proven way for once in the Simpsons are incorrect absolutely right bars no operating on roblox signal format completely manual the way you did with 10 letters in the 1890s is the only weather line very serious this is the only way there allowed to operate they may not as you know they may not Minot trust the electronics Minot schedule trains In N Out have two trains at one time between two stations before train leaving station 00:35:30 must be a manual telephone call to clear the the front train that it is left it stations that sell bar Albert liberate noun for some time future and then when they try to get the present 6 anime try all over again then go back to that again you mentioned the median Arizona Media people are so preoccupied 5 with a matching aerie scandals in Washington they fail to see real scandal right here here why haven't or liberal media investigated in reporting on the activities days of our sport of Directors in the corporate executives for behind a student 00:36:05 tubing in dollars swindle in the Bay Area taxpayer best answer that is a diatribe trying to Douglaston Watergate on wheels last year in the US but I should point out here is where the publican or public officials in all of us fell down the press is scream about this one of your major metropolitan what newspapers are the San Francisco Chronicle to be specific gave a very complete warning in series of articles in 1966 predicted just about every problem these guys had most certainly the financial problems 00:36:40 problems in the delays and the inconvenience is because of the nose of cars in one have you have you put out that was a tremendous Aphrodite think was put to try to make that is this is objective and as far as possible I get the first thing I don't gotta library no one listens Parts mother that was the tractor retarded just said this is a vicious Press mirror of a off of motherhood Watergate to get into into everything everything are the Watergate activities at all related to parts problems 00:37:15 only I believe in the sense that has been my opinion an observation the men in water and minun and Bart seemed it time what time does Usain on the cameras in Washington in attitude and how they deal how to deal with people who produces an opinion zone in smart Alex annoying me everyone from a community from San Mateo with bar in trouble should citizens of San Mateo County joint bar and seek services library that's a moot point what is happening in probably won't move 00:37:50 how many others have mass transit because of the shame of this one that's what I'm at about it's too late is created so much of a bitter taste instant mind so many so many people that I think it is kill the chances of mini or is it too early need public transportation of being able to get it that's perfect answer why doesn't bark charge for parking when does policy result in more car pooling I don't know the answer that II know that the main things people are sensitive what is 2 is the public image in the public compassion for the BART system 00:38:25 and those who don't complain that is in baby that they don't charge charge for parking that may be the case but I think I know that discussed so I thought what question are asked what are your contractions contractual relations Asians that would prevent you from taking a job with Bart I am off major owner in on corporate Corporation that I helped build the they have rights to all my my private area information activities and so forth people who put a great deal of money 00:39:00 money into expecting stay there been to this before the most you know the other the effects of the business professional you do that you do that job well how many touchdowns does a little bit on how many of the bar directors doctors in head mass transit experience what is the area of competency what train what training an earlier experience to my knowledge of the Damned mass transit industries employ employs what have you I know that some of the older ones are the reason of the border bowl head head first class world tours of all the other mass transit system what that means 00:39:35 and it should have been little disturbing to make most of them work um but again I have to emphasize you don't need mass transit experts Sports to solve this problem to run the system you just need a good business manager guide how to make a profit somewhere that's all I mean really I don't think these men every damn one of them and I've seen on the test in four floors of that bar Castle over there could make make a profit with a hot dog stand the schoolyard I really don't believe they could always hear about bar Carmel 00:40:10 are messes and failures where has burnt down a really outstanding job well I don't think Barton you talk about the Bartman incident outstanding job because they were not involved in what was going on and tell these problems came up this is all turnover outside engineers & Consultants they were strictly involved in getting money public relations in a showing up what part is outstanding tanning is the part of Bart built by the local contractors thousands of men in this area in hundreds of contractors under stringent compel 00:40:45 competitive times it to me at all of very very good to fantastic system marijuana everytime I write on I just like to see it everywhere anything what was your reaction to the Y in an expression publicity given by the pressure in Everybody how to chip part of Ares well since I'm the one who rode how to show them the third are there again another computer system with soluble and they were warned that very early nobody's ready just because far is there concerned 00:41:20 don't care if I only trying to show them to Cody's Lee be done in your kitchen with 10 cents with material just so that they might order little better equipment the next time that was a 3 3 month boondoggle mother of considerations for everything else I'm sorry the gentlemen ladies and gentlemen River Asus if you think the one you mail is an easy way to beat that scheme leave me there's another one listen Sidious and I'm not going to Mollywood about the telling them care other large number 00:41:55 questions about suits against roar of could roars enormous financial losses incurred in the last 4 years the initial 250 bar cars be recovered with profits from the additional 200 cars know in order I don't really know I can't answer that question can I have a todas a mixed feelings about the culpability are the responsibility of the park staff engineers and contractors in with a permit to report yesterday by Bartley stair side of the story with 10000 dollars an aspect questions 00:42:30 what does keeping month contract written for that for those cars like the train control system system is a good face document is Reno specifications in there that you can think your teeth into on any of the trouble something to causing problems standings arguing over who's responsible IAAI I think some of the things on the car the cars or a night and I think many the things that were specified to be put in the cars are naive troublesome so how do you solve this I don't know is the next question will birth problems the best song by Lawson 00:43:05 Engineering common sense really that's that's all it takes text and it takes a new cool people who are not involved in this mess Avigo Enrique women Asian finger pointing and I want a state Senate 1&a half years ago today what they would at that point in Barca Panera that I call of the year of the air the arrow define senescence what is Ben and tell you extricate these men for men in Temple City where they can no longer put pressure on the contractors without exposed exposing their own culpability you can expect no forceful reasonable management 00:43:40 you just need a new crew come out of almost any business in urine your business are you in favor of federal subsidies for Bart I'm not in favor of any more of our money in this word comes from being squander I'm in favor of federal subsidies in all the help the government local agencies can get the master transit because it really is a very necessary this is the biggest single factor in the economy economy of this community of the day aria and even on that bass is a loan for running 00:44:15 running smoothly leave it in the hands of the people in charge of it now I think would be foolish for public officials to get those Man 3 over something maybe 10 times more forceful any single public official has is a little bit Philly in my pants what is beer good idea to bring over a team of Vicksburg experience Japanese businessmen scientist to straighten up the barn mes de Mayo well 00:44:50 you know I had a lot of experience with these gentleman and I would be a good surprises what is a might not be willing to do that but I would bet that if the ones I worked with with little to make it run it would be running 9 months from now if they had to bring your own car cars in electronic store as you're my sister specs to your other life the questions on it and I are cameras can't resist asking if you do you expect to obtain a valid US patents on your process for finding and fascinating a mistress well 00:45:25 well you see you should read the rest of that title because the rest of the trees and silver can survive in spite of it all Canton Dr Bilal h1 Berg engineering designer of electronic control systems with timer for one more question in Ithaca the conclusion of your answer of this meeting with standard journal before asking ever on behalf of the thousand members of the Commonwealth Club of California many of Homer Erin the Sheraton Dallas hotel in San Francisco many will be listening on the radio 00:46:00 Radio prank you very much for your very stimulating interesting speech and your answer dancers today's many difficult questions the last question is Bart harder to manage incest fascinate mistress what's your phone bark well let me be careful on them almost almost any man in the audience circuit answer the question does the answer for the simple reason you see the reason the reasons that I think millions of housewives made that silly silly little bit of satire bestseller is it they discover the nothing in the books 00:46:35 does your wife can't be a mistress
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Commonwealth Club of California
Interviewer: Mitchell, Bruce T.
Speaker: Wattenburg, Bill (Willard Harvey)
Distributor: Commonwealth Club of California
Interviewer: Mitchell, Bruce T.
Speaker: Wattenburg, Bill (Willard Harvey)
Distributor: Commonwealth Club of California
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1970s
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